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Depressed Anonymous

Are friends and family struggling because of YOUR depression?

Our depression not only affects us but it impacts those around us. If your friends and family are struggling and would like some help there is a sister fellowship to ours – Dep-Anon.

Dep-Anon: A Fellowship for Families and Friends
Dep-Anon is a 12‑Step program for those who struggle to support a loved one living with depression. While Depressed Anonymous offers recovery and hope for individuals, Dep-Anon provides a parallel path of healing for family members and friends.

Many members know both sides of this journey—living with depression themselves and supporting someone they love. Together, these fellowships create a fuller circle of care, one for those living with depression and one for those who love them.

Their fellowship can be found at https://depanon.org

Please note that we are not endorsing or supporting the other fellowship, we are just making our members aware there is help for their family and friends.

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Adding to saddening tolerance?

When it comes to other addictions the addict typically will use more of the substance/behavior and participate in it more frequently. They typically start exhibiting more risky behavior because what was once a line in the sand that they wouldn’t cross is now being crossed on a daily or more frequent basis. What exactly is your bottom line addictive saddening behavior? What did it start out as?

Perhaps it began with you not being outgoing in social situations. It then may have progressed to you not speaking to a few or many people. Then it may have switched to you staying isolated at home. Then you may be at a point that you find it impossible to get out of bed.

Notice a progression here where you had to start exhibiting deeper and more frequent saddening behavior. Our tolerance grows over time and it takes a bigger hit of saddening yourself before you feel the escape from the troubles of your life.

The nice things about bottoms is that there are so many to choose from. I can get off the crazy train by dedicating myself to a program of recovery. We can’t do it alone but with each other and our Higher Power there is a way out of depression.

Join me on the journey of returning to sanity.

Yours in recovery,
Bill R

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Short Term Success vs. Long Term Success

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Short term success looks a little different than long term success.

The key to short term success is INTENSITY. The key to long term success is CONSISTENCY.

Short Term Success

I’m also a member of AA and a strong suggestion to newcomers there is they do a 90 in 90 – i.e. attend 90 meetings in 90 days. There are plenty of online meetings available for Depressed Anonymous found at Online Depressed Anonymous Meetings. I attend meetings from the DA group Journeys of Hope and they host 23 meetings weekly (see the link for information).

Say you first join DA at a real low point in your depression. You may be in need of some intensive action on your part so you may need to do a 90 in 90. Only you can make that call. I would suggest you initially commit to a 7 in 7 – just a week where you attend a meeting daily. At the end of those 7 days you can decide to extend it the full 90 days.

Long Term Success

OK you are past the initial crisis of being in the pit of depression. Things are better than they once were. Don’t rest on your laurels. You must maintain your DA sobriety (i.e. sanity).

Suggestions for the long term:

  • Determine for yourself the minimum number of DA meetings you are going to go to each week. This must be a distinct number that is achievable. Don’t say “I’ll go to as many meetings as I can”. How will you know that you achieved that?

    For me, when I am doing well the commitment is two 12 Step meetings a week (either AA or DA for me). Come hell or high water I will make that number of meetings a week.

    If I am off-center or experiencing some real difficulties in my life that minimum grows to four 12 Step meetings weekly. If my ass falls off I’ll put it in a bag and go to a meeting.
  • At every meeting you go to you need to share. It doesn’t need to be sharing at depth – just claim your seat. Say your name and that you are recovering from depression. If you don’t feel that well say your name and that you are struggling with depression. Never say you suffer from depression because when you say that you SUFFER FROM DEPRESSION.
  • Start doing service at the meetings you attend. If an online meeting volunteer to be the timekeeper. Volunteer to read from recovery literature. Volunteer to chair a meeting. If it is a face to face meeting volunteer to be the greeter.
  • Get a sponsor and communicate with that sponsor frequently. How frequently you communicate with them is a mutual agreement between you and your sponsor.
  • Communicate with other members of DA. Call people on the contact list. Join the DA WhatsApp group and participate in the chat. If you go to a face to face meeting meet for coffee or lunch.
  • Work the Steps with your sponsor or co-sponsorship group. You need to look within and participate with others to lock that recovery into your brain.

Achieve your recovery goals whether they are short term or long term.

Yours in recovery, Bill R

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Starting a Depressed Anonymous face to face meeting

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Perhaps you wish that there was a face to face Depressed Anonymous meeting where you live. There is a solution to that – start one! Here are some pointers that I can share from my experience starting a face to face meeting in my area.

  1. Find another person willing to commit to start a meeting with you
    Of course you could start the meeting on your own it is helpful to share the load with others.
  2. You and others make a time commitment to run the meeting
    I would suggest that make a commitment to yourselves that for a period of time (3-6 months) that even if no one shows up you will run the meeting. This meeting is starting through the force of your and your partners will. You’re not committing forever but rather for that time period. As that time period comes to an end hold a group conscience meeting with the group to determine its future.
  3. Find a place and time to host your meeting
    It could be a church basement, a recovery center, or any place you can secure a room at low or no cost. I recommend that you have a recurring day and time for your meeting so that people can expect you to be there. A meeting that doesn’t have a set time and place is very difficult to build support over time.Try to find a place with a very low cost as you will need to front the money to pay for the first month/week. Some recovery centers price on a sliding scale – the recovery center by me wanted 50% of your 7th tradition contributions. The benefit of this approach is that there is no up front expenses and while your membership is small in the beginning the cost of the room will also be small.
  4. Schedule a launch date/time
    Pretty self explanatory.
  5. Do public outreach
    Announce the meeting at other 12 Step meetings. Although technically you will be violating that other fellowship’s traditions mention that death by suicide is the 10th leading cause of death in the US and many people with addictions are also depressed.

    I collected all the mental health provider addresses from the web portal for my health insurance. You will be sending them a physical letter (the email address will not be posted on the web portal). Initially when I performed that search I found over 200 entries – that amount of postage was more than I was willing to front. I looked at the data and decided that I would only send a letter to those addresses with two or more mental health providers and that list was approximately 45 – a much more bearable financial burden.

    Get the postal addresses of the rehab centers in your community and send letters to them as well.

    Get the addresses of your local county mental health offices and send letters there as well.

    Find community centers and businesses with physical bulletin boards that would be willing to post your flyer announcing your meeting.
  6. Decide on a format for your meeting
    Are you going to be a meeting where you read from Depressed Anonymous literature? Or is the meeting going to be a topic discussion meeting? If it is going to be a literature meeting you will need to have at least one copy of the literature you will be using (textbook, workbook, Higher Thoughts for Down Days, other).

    As your group collects 7th Tradition donations you may want to buy additional copies so that multiple attendees could read.

    Write a first draft of the chairperson script which at the least should start with a moment of silence or a short prayer, reading the 12 Steps of Depressed Anonymous, then describing the format of the meeting.
  7. Have and run the first meeting
    Read your chairperson script. Run the meeting. The meeting doesn’t need to be perfect.
  8. As your commitment time draws to a close hold a group conscience discussion
    As stated in number 2 above you (and partners) decided to run the meeting regardless of support. As that time comes to an end you must be ready to turn the fate of the meeting over to the group. Should the group continue? Who can volunteer to lead meetings? Does the format of the meeting work for the group?

That’s the guide as a nutshell. Don’t take the guide as the only way to do it – it is merely one way that happened to work for me. If it doesn’t fit your needs tailor it to your needs.

Yours in recovery, Bill R